Real Truths About Sunlight That You Misunderstood

Is the sun really your enemy? How much sunlight do you need for optimal health?

Dive into this enlightening episode of me&my health up where host Anthony Hartcher tackles the prevalent misconceptions about sunlight. Amidst growing concerns over skin cancer and the barrage of media warnings about sun exposure, it's easy to start viewing the sun as nothing but a hazard. But what if there’s more to the story?

In this episode, we explore the myths and truths surrounding sunlight exposure. Anthony discusses the delicate balance between beneficial and harmful sun exposure, debunking common myths that often lead people to shun the sun entirely. From the importance of vitamin D to the effects of UV light on our bodies, we cover everything you need to know to safely harness the health benefits of the sun.

Why listen to this episode?

• Demystify Common Sunlight Myths: Understand the real risks and rewards of sun exposure.
• Learn Safe Sun Practices: Discover how to enjoy the sun safely based on the latest scientific insights.
• Boost Your Health Naturally: Find out how the right amount of sunlight can improve your mood, sleep, and immune function.

Tune in to uncover how you can strike the perfect balance with sunlight, and why turning your back on the sun could be counterproductive to your health. Whether you’re a sun seeker or a shade lover, this episode is packed with crucial insights that will shed light on the essential role sunlight plays in your wellbeing.

Don't miss out on this dose of sunshine packed with vital health tips—perfect for anyone looking to enhance their lifestyle while navigating the myths of sun exposure.


About me&my health up & Anthony Hartcher

me&my health up seeks to enhance and enlighten the well-being of others. Host Anthony Hartcher is the CEO of me&my wellness which provides holistic health solutions using food as medicine, combined with a holistic, balanced, lifestyle approach. Anthony holds three bachelor's degrees in Complementary Medicine; Nutrition and Dietetic Medicine; and Chemical Engineering.

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Transcript

Anthony Hartcher: 0:06

Welcome back to another insightful episode of me&my health up. I'm your host, Anthony Hartcher. I'm a clinical nutritionist and lifestyle medicine specialist. The purpose of this podcast is to enhance and enlighten your well-being. And today, I'll be doing that just for you. And we're going to be talking about sunlight and the misinformation that is out there in relation to sun harm, sun damage, melanoma, and it's all bad sun, right? Everything about the Sun is bad. And the reason why I'm raising this topic is recently we had the Australian of the Year, it was a joint winner between Professor Georgina Long and Professor Richard Scolyer. And they did some great work, no doubt about it in terms of immunotherapy in relation to melanoma treatment. So it's obviously the treatment of melanoma and using their way of doing it through their immunotherapy methodology. And it's fantastic, it's really helpful for those that have got this melanoma that is in the past may be considered that, you know, they're they're really in danger of their lives and their lives are at risk. And it's obviously not great. And it's great to have an option in terms of this immunotherapy option that could enhance their likelihood of being cured or prolonging their life. So it's a fantastic breakthrough and it's great that we recognise these medical breakthroughs. But however, what concerns me is the distorted message that the media then shares based on little snippets of speeches that are shared on Australia Day when the recipients received their awards. And the media just takes these little one-liner titles and snippets to say that you know that Aussie tanning culture is terrible. And we need to get out of the sun. And we you know, we should avoid this sun exposure, the sun is evil. And it's really distorting the importance of sunlight for our health. And what happens is that people take these headlines don't really look into the context of why it was said and how it was said, and it's taken out of all context. And then the, you know, the take-home message is keep out of the sun, it's bad for us. Well, it's an actual fact, it's the complete opposite. Well, not the complete opposite. You know, I certainly want to put context to it that anything in excess is dangerous and harmful, such as even water or even oxygen. So the basics that we need to survive, such as oxygen and water, those in excess are dangerous and harmful to us. But another basic necessity of life is sunlight. And again, excessive exposure of sunlight is harmful and dangerous. But we don't want to lose it in context and think that all sunlight is harmful and dangerous. And therefore we need to put copious amounts of sun cream on, we need to cover up our bodies, we need to wear sunglasses, in actual fact that's taking an extreme view which is causing us harm and we're actually suffering from the lack of sunlight. So there's more disease today that's coming from the result of lack of sunshine, such as mental illness, depression, or even anxiety, even dementia, even Parkinson's. All of these can be traced back to the lack of sunlight, even melanoma, skin cancer and, and all sorts of cancers, all forms of cancers can be tracked back to inadequate sunlight, Vitamin D deficiency, and so we don't want to be distorting the message to say that all Sun is bad, we just need to get the sun right. And this is referred to is getting your sun diet right as opposed to a sun junk diet or a light junk diet. So a light good diet so we're talking the diet of light, which is a play on words. But a good diet of light is that we see morning sunrise that's really important to set our body in a harmonious ability to communicate between systems. Because we need the reset of, we need this circadian reset and we can do this through getting morning light getting morning light exposure gets us in the circadian rhythm and we need that in order to have good communication across all our systems. So that is getting good light morning sunlight. In actual fact, with the sun rising, there is no UV in it and the actual fact around UV is that it's not all bad, we actually need UV light to do things in our body to keep us well and healthy. It is excessive UV light exposure that is toxic. And in particular, a lot of the non-native EMFs that are produced, such as through screens are toxic to us, because their narrow brand narrowband light, it is not broadband light. Broadband light is actually good for us. And that comes from the sunlight. Because it's a broad spectrum. It counterbalances itself, it helps us maintain balance within our systems. However, when we get narrow spectrum lights, like just blue light coming or just predominantly blue light from our screens, that is toxic to us, because it's too much it's too high intensity. It's the same as when we go to the tanning salons, which is often referred to when people say this bronze Aussie culture is toxic. Well, it's those that are going to the tanning salons that are just getting a narrowband of light emitted on their body, which obviously is too much for the body, it's too intense and it becomes toxic. But that's just like me drinking excessive amounts of water, or having excessive oxygen exposure, or not enough oxygen exposure, you get I mean it's too much or too little creates problems creates disease. And in actual fact, what we're seeing is that we're getting too much disease or disease as a as a derivative of the lack of sunlight, we need actually more sunlight. We've been driven away from it because of these headlines and misinformation. And because of distorted message messages. And of course, the media is out to get you fearful because that drives news, it drives people to talk because we are wired to exaggerate the negative. That's our survival mechanism kicking in, it's when our amygdala is running us, we distort the negative to prepare us for the worst-case scenario that is an inbuilt mechanism we have within us and the media thrives on it. But what I'm doing is providing a counterbalance to this headline that says, all light is toxic. It's not, we actually need broadband light to stay healthy. And let me share some reasons why. So in the morning, we set the circadian rhythm by establishing that circadian rhythm, we then start producing serotonin, we start producing melatonin. So we actually produced some hormones that we need to keep us well, these neurotransmitters that we've talked about a lot. And you know, that we often take pills for because we are deficient in it. And it's most likely because we have a deficient light diet, or we have a junk light diet. And that is that we're getting lots of blue light exposure through our screens, but we're not getting enough natural sunlight exposure. So in the morning, we going to get UV light UVA light. So the morning so around that around seven, depending on where you are in the world, obviously it's summertime here in Australia. So we have the sun rising around six or five depending on what if you're on daylight savings, not on daylight savings. But in that first part, you know, the first couple of hours, there's very little UV light, so you don't need to worry about too much UV but we actually need the next part, which is UVA that comes around that, you know, 7 am onwards or 7 to 11 we're getting predominantly UVA, because UVA is where we make pregnenolone, which is a bit of a tongue twister for me, but that is where we create a cascade of our sex hormones. So our testosterone, our estrogen, our progesterone come from pregnenolone, right? And this is where we also we make, you know, this is in the mitochondria, it needs the UVA light in order to make the melatonin, the melatonin 95% of what we make is made from the mitochondria which is made in the day, the pineal gland only makes 5% of what we need around melatonin and so we need to get sunlight particularly morning sunlight to make our sex hormones to make dopamine so dopamine is often what we're deficient in is and when we're deficient in it we're seeking fulfillment through other external means, such as addictions so that we go for food sugar in particular sugar, because we have low dopamine and it's because we're not getting good light exposure. We're getting this toxic light exposure which depletes depletes us, and actually creates mismessages and mixed signals within the body. Because if we only get narrowband lights such as blue light from our screens, it's telling the body that it's the middle of the day, and it's middle of the summer. And so you could be in the middle of your winter. But if you're looking at your screen all day, you're telling your body to do things that it does in the middle of the day and the middle of summer, such as create cortisol, which is our awake hormone keeps us awake, keeps us active and helps us achieve things. So it creates high cortisol, it also it also generates insulin. So we because insulin that we need to uptake glucose into the cell so that we can get energy into the cell, we can get nourishment into the cell, we need insulin, and so insulin is very active with blue light. But if we're seeing that all the time, then our body's constantly thinking it's the middle of the day and continue to do middle-of-the-day things. And this is where we're constantly producing insulin. And we create insulin sensitivity, as a result of excessive non-native EMF blue light exposure coming from our screens, our computers, our TV screens, coming from our phones, all this screen time is creating this miscommunication within the body and the body is confused. So it's doing things that it's just does when it's exposed to middle of the day, and with blue light, and that is excreting insulin, which when we excrete too much our cells become insensitive to it. So it doesn't answer the knock on the door from insulin to allow the glucose in. So therefore, our cells aren't getting energy, we have this insulin resistance that's created because we're producing too much insulin, because we're too much in front of our screens, and we're getting a junk light diet, what we need to do is stay in sync with the natural light to keep our body in sync. So we do need to get periodic exposure throughout the day to natural sunlight. So we want to be getting at least five minutes of natural light every hour. If we can't get it every hour, we want to be getting 10 minutes every two hours, or 15 minutes every four hours to keep our body in sync with the circadian rhythm. And so what we'll get is we get the broad spectrum of light which the body needs. As I said, we create neurotransmitters from it, we create hormones from it, we help create energy, we help communication within our cellular and within our systems. And not only we know we correct the communication and that being in symphony in harmonious symphony, as opposed to being in miscommunication, and not knowing what time of day it is because we have this artificial light exposure all the time. By staying in this nice symphony. The other thing that we do by getting sun exposure regularly is recharging our batteries. Yes, our water batteries, okay, we're made up of predominantly water, and through the excitation from photons from the sun, it charges our battery, it gives us energy. And it's why if we're inside all the time, and not getting regular check-ins with the sun, we can get deflated from this exposure to all these non-native EMFs, which then send miscommunication into our systems. And the body gets all confused. These mismessages, this miscommunication, it doesn't know what to do, it's not in sync or in harmony, and it gets deflated, we actually lose our battery charge, it gets stripped from us because of these excessive exposure to non-native EMFs. So we need to keep our battery charged by getting sunlight, by grounding our feet, and through doing this, we're we're getting this level of energy for the our systems to run off, we charge up our battery through getting electrons through the grounding. And then we excite those electrons through the sun. And we've got this charged-up battery. It's why we feel great when we go outside and spend time outdoors without bare feet on the ground. Because we're charging up our battery then you can go inside, do some work. And then on the next right, get outside and charge up the battery again so you can constantly stay energised and not continually feel deflated. And what we typically do is we stay inside, when we feel deflated, we go and eat something and so we end up eating excessive amounts of food because that's the only source that where we're getting electrons from and however we can reduce the amount of food consumption by getting outside and charging in other ways because, in actual fact, we're designed only to get 30% of our electrons through food 30%. So 70% through other means such as water, grounding, and exciting these batteries, our batteries through light exposure, we can get energy through other means other than food. So if you're wanting to avoid excessive eating and overeating, we need good light exposure, but not narrowband toxic blue light exposure continuously throughout the day, we want to break it up, get outside, get natural light exposure, get the communication happening within our body, get some natural energy boost, charge our batteries so that we can go again, and be more vitalised. And be more resilient, be more adaptable for what we're facing throughout our day by getting outside. Now, the other thing I wanted to share in terms of natural sunlight, so it goes through phases. So we go through UVA in the early that morning part of the day. And then we go into UVB and there's obviously crossover between UVA and UVB. So we get a bit of UVA and UVB and one will be more predominant than the other. But they're both helpful for us. And they both prepare one another for what's coming. So UVA creates vasodilation. So it what it does is it stimulates nitrogen oxide production within our body, which creates vasodilation. And that vasodilation actually reduces our blood pressure, it gets our blood out to our peripheries, right? So it gets it out to our skin. And what it's what it's preparing the the blood for and the exposure to is UVB. So it's getting it's carrying the cholesterol out to the skin so it can then receive UVB light, which then cracks cholesterol and sulfates it combines it with sulfur and then we get sulfated cholesterol. And then it can go off and produce hormones and do its work throughout the body and send light signals throughout the body. And so we have this great harmonious working together, you know UVA to create the vasodilation, UVB creates vasoconstriction to counterbalance, and it does this beautiful dance. And it works together to create harmonious signals in our body and to actually create hormones that we need signaling amongst our systems to get a coherent message throughout our body so that we're working in harmony as opposed to feeling that we're in disharmony and that we need pick-me-ups or calm me downs because we're all over the place. And we've got all these chaos. And so whenever we get chaotic messages in our body, it is it forms inflammation, that's where inflammation comes from, is through chaotic messengers, when our body is out of sync creates inflammation. But we can get harmonious signals in our body through natural light exposure, broadband light and getting little doses throughout the day. So just pulsing it, it's not missing morning light, and then then exposing the body to UVB intense UVB light in the middle of the day. That's junk light diet, that is where we can get excessive exposure to UVB light. And anything in excess, as I said is dangerous to us. And that's what they've associated with excessive UVB to melanoma, and but it's just not doing the light right. That is, you know, and just doing it in periods of you know, we just get toxic amounts of UV UV light. And we're not getting that infrared light at the start of the day infrared light at the end of the day, which is preparing us so when we get the infrared light, we initiate this production of melatonin. And the melatonin is like a coolant of our engine system. It's like an antioxidant and it prepares us for oxidative stress during the middle of the day that we get from UVB light. So in actual fact, by getting regular sun exposed throughout the day, we are preparing our body for it, it's ready for it as opposed to being smashed because it's got no infrared light at the start of the day. It's got no UVA light at the start of the day. And it's just exposed to middle of the day sun where you're sun baking and getting too much of a narrowband of light and not getting the full broad spectrum of light that comes throughout this cycle of light throughout the day. So we want to be doing sunlight but doing it well. Getting regular exposure throughout the day and not just getting one part of the day and missing the rest of the day, we want to be dipping in constantly throughout the day, but not doing it for excessive periods of time. I don't spend all day in the middle of the day outside, I spend a good portion of my day at the start of the day outside, then I come inside and I just get little exposure during the middle of the day, I don't get excess oh you know I'm doing five-minute bouts. And because I've build up my solar callus through getting the morning sunlight and the evening sunlight, I've got more tolerance, more protection, because I've got more melanin on the outs and the melanin protects us from the UV light, it reflects a lot of the UV light, but it's it certainly absorbs the full spectrum of light. But it gets rid of the excess. And so by having this solar callus of melanin on the outside, which is you know, that brown of pigment of your skin, I'm protecting myself from excessive exposure to damaging UV light. However, I'm still getting a dose of it. But I'm not overdosing on it. And so it's about doing your light diet right and not doing anything to excess. So I'm not promoting you to go out and get middle of the day sun for hours, without any sun protection, if you're going to be out in the sun in the middle of day for hours, then you need to protect yourself. But what I do is just pulse it, I just go into shade, and then out of shade. But I just do small time out of shade and more time in shade at the middle of the day. In the morning, when it's got a lot of the infrared light, a lot of the red light, a lot of the longer wave wavelengths that are really good in terms of regeneration, to helping us rebuild and build up again because the middle of the day is that destroying. So we go through the building phase at the morning throughout the night. And in the evening, so evening, throughout the night, and the morning is that rebuilding. And then we've got that destroying phase in the middle of the day, which is oxidative and then we have that more reductive way of rejuvenating ourselves in the early morning, late evening, and throughout the night. But we need that balance of redox and oxidation, build and destroy in order to keep us in harmony. Because we do need to destroy cells, we need to destroy the cancer cells. But if we have this system that's not getting regular checks and balances and is only getting exposure to narrowband with light, then that's going to be junk light and toxic for our body. And this is going to create cancer within ourselves. And we're not going to be able to regulate it because we're not getting exposure to the rejuvenating spectrum of light, which is the red and infrared and far infrared and near infrared. Those long wavelength spectrum light is really healing to the body. But we need that with a bit of UV because the UV, as I said is where we initiate the synthesis of cholesterol, we need the UVB, but we want it with the UVA we want it together. And the only way of getting it together is by getting regular checks of the light throughout the day. And regular exposure but not excessive exposure. So start low. And particularly depending on what type of skin like that if you've got really fair skin, then you need less time in the sun, the darker you are, the more time you need. So it really depends on your skin type. And you're the best judge of that. But just pulse it pulsating it so that you're getting one minute in the middle of the day if you've got really fair skin, but you're getting good exposure in terms of you haven't got sunglasses, protecting your eyes, because otherwise we're blocking out full spectrum light from our eyes. And we have these visible photoreceptors and then these non the nonvisible light photoreceptors. And we need to get that full spectrum into our eyes to send the message throughout the body. So it can do its various functions that it does when it receives those light signals. So we don't want to have sunglasses on when we're getting our minute of exposure. And we don't want to be fully covered up we want also our skins because our skins have these photoreceptors as well for nonvisible light and for visible light. So the visible light is the colors we see. But then there's the whole nonvisible spectrum such as the near infrared, the far infrared, and the infrared light. We don't see them or we don't see the real narrow, you know, bands of light that are high intensity such as the ultraviolet. We don't see those. We don't see the ultraviolet spectrum. It's but that's high intensity and we need less of it, but we still need some exposure to it. And what I'm saying is doing it safe but but what we don't want to be doing is avoiding it totally, because that's when we're going to create problems, that's when we're going to have low vitamin D, low vitamin D is been associated with skin cancer, low vitamin D is associated with autoimmune disease, associated with mental health disorders. Low vitamin D is associated with a lot of immune disorders, immune dysregulation, and when we have immune dysregulation, we get inflammation that gets out of control, there's no checks and balances on on the inflammation, we want to bring order to inflammation, by sun exposure, it brings coherent signals and allows the body to then get back into sync for what it's supposed to do at that time of the day, when we're sending a lot of missignals by getting exposure to blue light in the evening, when it's when you know, we've been built not to be exposed to blue light in the evening, only in the middle of the day, then that sends mixed signals to our body. And in the evening, it's telling the body to produce more cortisol, when you have elevated cortisol, you have low melatonin circulating, and that's going to create this wakefulness. And at night, you want to go to sleep, right? And this is what creates the insomnia. And then the other thing it creates is excessive amount of insulin production if you're getting blue light exposure in the evening. And then when you've got excessive amounts of insulin production, you're creating this mismatch. And it's and this is why you feel hungry in the evening. Because you've got low dopamine, because you've been hit with all this blue light, you've got high insulin, which is telling you that you're hungry, and you know you're you're crashing, and you've got high cortisol. And so you've got this total mix-match as why we're eating too much in the evening, because we're exposed to too much blue light. So in the evening, you want to tone down the lighting, you want to get more candle lights around your house, we can and the candle lights lower than your eye line so that it's sort of projecting a nice long wavelength that our eyes as then thinking ah, it's the end of the day. And it's the sun's going down. And, and so we want little light exposure in the evening. And certainly, we don't want the the LED light exposure, we want to turn turn it down if we can, turn down the LED exposure, turn on the incandescent light lamps or whatever, so that you can read, turn down the white light and blue light on your screens which you can put it on to night mode, I have all my devices on night mode. And I certainly don't work past sunset. Once my system switches on to sunset, then it's time for me to stop working on my computer. So I have all these little cues to tell me that hey, it's sunset now, the body is not designed to see blue light after sunset. And so I've got these cues to tell me to turn off the computer. And if I need to work on the computer, I wear these blue light blockers and I have the device emitting minimal amounts of blue light, very little blue light. It's a yucky yellow, orange light that lacks clarity, because it's the blue light that gives complete clarity. But that's what we're designed to see in the middle of the day, not at the end of the day or the start of the day. So it's really important in the end of the day that you minimise the exposure to narrowband light, and that you dim lights and you know use blue light blockers if you need to work in you know later than sunset. And then to make sure your screens not emitting the full spectrum blue light, it's you know, got less emissions. And so you can do these little things you can light little candles throughout. If you don't like candles, then buy some incandescent light globes for the evening, or have some incandescent lamps that emit a broader spectrum of light and it's not so narrow, it's actually got some red light and orange light, it's not all blue light. So it's important that we do these sorts of things in order to keep our body in harmony to keep the communication in sync. So that we can heal and repair when we're supposed to. And when we oxidise and break down and destroy, you know, around the middle of the day, then in that repair work, you know, nighttime when the melatonin is really active, and we have autophagy and all these great actions to take out mutated cells to get these mutated cells that are going to become cancerous if they're not taken out. And so we have these checks and balances in place provided our body is doing the right things at the right time of day and it's not getting too much of one's signal light at a time of the day when it's not meant to receive that signal of light such as blue light at night. So what I want you to do get regular sun exposure during the day, five minutes every hour. And if you've got really fair skin, just start with little, could be one minute 30 seconds just getting that but just getting it throughout the day, and making sure that when you do get it, that you're doing it without sunglasses, without sun cream and minimal clothes, so that all your photoreceptors on your skin and in your eyes are getting full spectrum light, good light, but not doing it excessively I'm not promoting anything excessive. I'm just promoting what your body needs and, and what it needs to stay in sync. And to do all the functions it needs to do throughout the day so that it can do its night functions because we produce most of our melatonin during the day. So we need to make sure we're doing the light diet right, and not a junk junk light diet, such as just blue light exposure throughout the day and night. And to keep our body working in harmony, so we can have good blood glucose regulation. We create the dysregulation through excessive narrowband light exposure and non-native EMF exposure, that's create sugar dysregulation. If you want sugar regulation, then what we want to be doing is getting the regular sun exposure with grounding, coupled with drinking filtered water, that is really going to help with blood glucose regulation and eating whole foods that are in season and that are local, locally produced, because it's from our food, that also we get a signal from the food we get as to what season it is because we shouldn't be eating foods that are out of season because that's a mismatch to what our eyes are seeing. And then we get create these incoherent signals within the body. Because the body is getting some food that's got a, a barcode of light that was created, the food was created in the equator. And it's saying no, you're not at the equator, you're getting the light through your eyes to show that you're in winter, but you're eating food from the equator. And so you create this mismatch, these incoherent signals create inflammation, it creates disturbance in the body and the body becomes out of sync and that's how we manifest disease. We need to stay in sync by eating foods that are local in season, and that we're getting regular sun exposure throughout the day. And we're also getting the heat exposure, or the cold exposure if it's in winter. So we want the heat stress protein because that's another way and we how we get coherent signals in the body is these heat stress proteins that are stressed either through heat or cold depending on the season, but it's sending the body the time of day the season that's in and we then the body knows what to do for that time of the day and the season it's in. And so we do want to not get you know, have excessive amounts of cover-up and protection from the cold and, and then you know, we don't want to be running air conditionings all the time, we want our body to experience the heat of the day to stay in sync because that's another way it gets the signal as to what time of the day it is and what season it is through the temperature. So it's another way we get it through light and temperature. So you know light and heat or light and cold depending on whether you're in winter or summer. So I hope that was really helpful in terms of bringing a full balanced message to you. Not through a headline by spending a good period of time a good half an hour with you as to how to do it well and not just take headlines and then run with the headlines thinking that all sunlight's bad, all sunlight is not bad. In actual fact, no life exists without sunlight. What we want to do is make sure we get broad spectrum light not narrowband non-native EMFs such as through our screens and just getting that exposure because that's sending missignals. And these missignals create inflammation, and that's where disease manifests from. If we get coherent signals from the sun, we get a complete match with the foods we're eating and the temperature we're exposed to, then our body can stay in a nice, nice, nice harmony and do the right things at the right part of the day. And that's where you're going to get your cancer protection from is when your body is in harmony. It's the missignals, the junk light diet, and eating foods out of season and eating processed foods is where we create an and we allowed disease to manifest. So in order to stay on top of it and to prevent cancer, what you want to do is do a healthy light diet and not a junk light diet. If you want more support, more information around this, please reach out to me, reach out to me, anthony@meandmywellness.com.au. And I'll answer any further questions you have. And I'm happy to support you through one-on-one consulting or you can join my one-on-one group session group on Patreon where we do group consults together and I share information with the group and you'll also get discounted to my other products and services. So you can join the Patreon group through the show notes. There's a link at the bottom support the show, and that takes you to my Patreon group. Or you can reach out to me directly if you've got any further questions on how you can do this tailored to your skin type, tailored to your unique circumstances. I'm happy to help you. I hope this was insightful and for those that you know loved ones out there that you'd like them to live a more healthier and more informed healthy life. Please share this episode with them. Thank you for tuning in to another insightful episode of me&my health up.

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