The Healing Power of Sunlight to Optimise Health

Have you ever wondered how the simple act of stepping into sunlight can transform your health? What if the key to enhancing your well-being and vitality lies not in a bottle, but in the natural light of the sun?

Dive into an enlightening episode of me&my health up with host Anthony Hartcher and special guest Nathan Siles, as they unravel the myriad benefits of sunlight for our health and well-being. In this captivating discussion, Nathan Siles, a holistic health expert, shares his personal journey and deep insights into how sunlight is more than just a source of light – it's a vital component of our health ecosystem.

Discover how the sun's rays, particularly UVB, play a crucial role in synthesising vitamin D, essential for strong bones, a robust immune system, and maintaining a positive mood. Learn about the often-overlooked infrared light and its healing properties, delving deep into our tissues to promote circulation, reduce inflammation, and aid muscle recovery. 

Nathan also sheds light on the importance of sunlight in regulating our circadian rhythm, which governs everything from our sleep patterns to hormone release, highlighting its impact on both physical and mental health.

This episode is not just a conversation; it's a journey into understanding the profound impact of sunlight on our lives. From debunking myths around sunlight and skin health to exploring its role in cholesterol management, Nathan and Anthony guide us through the science and the practical aspects of harnessing the sun's power for our well-being.

Tune in to this must-listen episode and embrace the natural solution to many of today's health challenges. Whether you're seeking to boost your mood, improve your sleep, or simply learn more about the natural wonders of sunlight, this episode is a treasure trove of information. 

About Nathan Siles: CEO & Founder of It’s Now You

1. Extensive Learning in Foundational Health:
Nathan has learned from top experts like biophysics researcher Dr. Alexander Wunsch, neurosurgeon Dr. Jack Kruse, and mitochondrial researcher Dr. Douglas C. Wallace since 2016.


2. Personal Health Journey:
Legally blind since 9 months old due to bilateral retinoblastoma, a rare juvenile cancer.
Grew up mastering braille, touch-typing, and visual assistive technology.
Excelled in health and finance subjects in high school despite visual challenges.


3. Educational Background:
Holds a Bachelor of Commerce from The University of Melbourne.
Studied a Diploma of Health at James Cook University, Queensland.
Qualified Reiki sachem practitioner and published author.


4. Holistic Health Approach:
Diagnosed with cancer a second time at 24, Nathan combined surgery and chemotherapy with naturopathic and herbal approaches.
Embraced Traditional Chinese Medicine, osteopathy, iridology, nutrition, fitness, meditation, ayurvedic therapies, and other spiritual practices.


5. Commitment to Foundational Health:
Founded It’s Now You in January 2018, focusing on sharing and educating about foundational health principles.
Offers consultations, online courses, and workshops.


6. Ayurvedic Lifestyle Consultant:
Provides educational consultations based on Ayurvedic principles, recommending various health strategies an

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Transcript

Nathan Siles: 0:07

We make vitamin D from UVB sunlight, that's the middle of the day, right when the sun's above 30 degrees. So this whole thing that dermatologists are peddling around skin cancers being linked to UV radiation, it can't be that they're mutually exclusive. So that's a total mess that you need to get rid of. Like I said, Be careful with the sun. If you haven't been in it for a while, you have to use more red and infrared in the morning, then you can go out and midday, but there is nothing wrong with burning except for losing some skin stem cells. I mean, yeah, it hurts when you sleep, and it keeps you off a little bit, the skin peels because you're losing the skin stem cells. But in my view, we personally do not get skin cancer from burning too much. You can't, because that would mean that you have high vitamin D. So we now also live in this altered world where we have microwave radiation everywhere. So you can actually get tanned, you can get lots of UV implied exposure without making vitamin D, if you're tanning next to your Bluetooth speaker, or next to your Wi Fi router, or next to your phone, which is connected to Spotify. So that can actually uncouple the vitamin D synthesis process in the skin from sulfated cholesterol because there's no water to hydrate that reaction. Because the EMF is dehydrated, remember from the side of the podcast, so we've then got another layered issue in there, which is confusing people and saying of it, I'm tanned and I've got a skin cancer. Okay, maybe you've got too much wireless radiation around you.

Anthony Hartcher: 1:30

That was Nathan Siles, and you've landed on the me&my health up podcast. I'm your host Anthony Hartcher, a clinical nutritionist and lifestyle medicine specialist. The purpose of this podcast is to enhance and enlighten your well being. And Nathan Siles is going to be doing that just for you. We're going to smash a lot of traditional paradigms and myths associated with light, with sunlight. Nathan is an expert in the circadian rhythm, and understanding how we can leverage sunlight to optimise our well being. So tune into this episode with Nathan Stiles, who has himself been through cancer and cured himself and is now thriving, you know, in a world where he is making a huge difference in terms of educating and empowering people on the circadian rhythm and the importance of light in our lives. So like not with Nathan Stiles, Welcome on the me&my health up podcast, How are you Nathan Siles?

Nathan Siles: 2:33

I'm very well, Anthony.Thanks for having me.

Anthony Hartcher: 2:36

It's absolute pleasure to have you on. The webinar I watched that you presented on light really just totally flipped my paradigm around life. So I thought from that moment, I need to better understand this and it because I didn't have a great grasp of what you're sharing. And I thought my listeners probably want to understand this as well, because it was so powerful, what you shared in terms of what light's done for you. What magnetism is done for you and what has done for you. And those three pillars on how it's really shaped where you are today, what you're doing today, your life's inspiration, your mission, your purpose. And so, first of all, I just love to ask you how you've arrived at what you're doing today.

Nathan Siles: 3:20

Sure, so my journey started with quite a serious challenge. So when I was eight months of age, I was diagnosed with a serious bilateral ocular cancer. So cancer on my on my retinas in both eyes. It's called retinal blastoma. It's quite rare. It's getting more common, unfortunately, but almost non existent 40 years ago. So they say genetic counselors would say that it would be mostly genetic, there is a minor predisposition that does occur in that space. But predominantly, there is an environmental trigger, which hits that. So there was something around six months I was born into this world in Melbourne, very healthy baby, six months of age, there must have been some environmental trigger to trigger this. And then it left me with a deadly brain cancer if not treated. So I was lucky enough to be treated and got caught before it spread to the rest of my brain. Because the retina is the front of the brain, I was able to help hang on to about 10% of my visual acuity. So there's only a small amount of functional retina in both eyes, which most ophthalmologists will have you know that it's probably just a camera issue with the eye. So maybe you see a bit less than 10% vision and whatnot. But what they don't tell you is there's another part of it called the eye clock. And this mechanism is also tuned by light. So if there's not a high fidelity of light signal through the retinas, then the internal clock systems off. So anyway, as I grew up, my camera vision left me with learning Braille and type writing, using the Braille typewriter and touch typing, very reliant on technologies, my learning. So going through schooling, I was prepared to go blind, they didn't know the amount of radiation they used in my treatment as cataracts to get formed. So, you know, it could block out a lot of the vision. But luckily, it gradually reduced my vision till I was maybe 7 or 8% When I was about 20. And then I had a cataract operation to have that out. So I went through schooling, I got into Melbourne University when I was 17, I studied commerce, was trying to be an investment banker eventually got there was 23. And I was starting in investment banking, no massive health issues, just sort of I would always get sick in winter would have the bit of seasonal depression would have the anxiety bursts and you know, skin conditions and things that that would pop up here and there and fatigue drew if I did lots of exercise, so, but I was an athlete, I was a swimmer and a soccer player, the state of Victoria so I was able to perform still and clearly my brain was still functioning well to get me into investment banking. And then I had a big wake up call when I was 24. So I was about to get a promotion to go over to London to work in the London office. And I got a physical exam and I had diagnosed with testicular cancer. So that left me as a young man thought he was invincible with quite a reevaluation to make so anyway, quick decision, I decided to go through conventional treatment and do complementary treatment alongside. So my conventional treatment involves the surgery and then three weeks of preparing for the chemotherapy, so my body couldn't recover from the surgery, and then the chemotherapy for four months. And then from that point onwards, I was diagnosed I was in remission. I was said I was in remission, so cancer free, but I didn't feel cancer free I was I lost my hair loss, my eyelashes. I was very weak. I'm six foot two and I was 80 kilos and I went down to 55 kilos. So it found it sounded a little bit unusual to be diagnosed with freedom when I felt so sick, and so unwell still. So none of that made sense to me. And I started researching and discovering what the chemo did to my body, following lots of different medical practitioners online until I found one a world renowned neuroscientist, neurosurgeon, Dr. Jack Cruz, who everything that he said on his podcast, and in his webinars I didn't understand. And I thought I knew a bit about diet, exercise, lifestyle, circadian rhythm, sleep, I didn't know anything. And so I started intently following him and I subscribed to his private medical group. And I followed followed him for four years, during which time I went up to James Cook University and studied a Diploma of health in Cannes, and eventually got lucky enough to be selected to come to his clinic in New Orleans, to train under him for a year. So I was one of his students for a year. And I call it almost like my, my little holistic neuroscience medical degree that I did under his leadership, and eventually got learned so much about how the brain and the body works and improve my health in every facet, I was healthier than I'd ever been when I was 26. And I realised I had to go and teach this. So I wanted to keep living the truth of of nature, which he taught me the language that nature communicates to ourselves. And so I decided to move to Mexico. So that's when I started my consulting, when I'm lived in the jungle in Mexico, on the beach there for two years. And then, you know, a whole bunch of other turmoils around the world hit and I found myself back in Australia now and then the Gold Coast. So educating not just doctors and practitioners, but also working directly with professional athletes to help human optimization and performance. And now building another company, which is involved products, lighting products, specifically visible and non visible lighting products to help regulate health within the home, on a subconscious level, so that people can be healthy, especially my biggest passion is young children.

Anthony Hartcher: 8:55

Wow, what an incredible journey you've just shared with us remarkable in terms of what you've been through, you've endured, you've persisted. And essentially, you've taken the best from everything and you know, to where you are today really empowering. And adding so much value to athletes adding so much value to myself as a practitioner, doctors, empowering them, educating them, and really making a huge difference based on your experiences and your you know, your journey. And obviously what you've learned through that journey and you know, educated yourself now you're passing on that education. And I really appreciate you know, being here with the me and my health app listeners to really empower them in terms of light and how they can use light to really optimise their health is my next question.

Nathan Siles: 9:48

Yep, Perfect. So it's a really beautiful segue to understand one of the primary levers of nature and how it communicates to our inner nature is through the process of light and from the sun, that's, that's a series of electromagnetic waves from our body. That's a series of bio photons, or electric field and magnetic field emissions from our body. So we have this intimate interaction between living systems in our environment. And we replicate, and sometimes even upscale the light in our environment, to what we actually make and produce in terms of light inside our body, like the primary signal of nature, and of our inner nature. So to start there, it makes a beautiful pathway to understand the living system, and how it works on a subatomic level. So when we talk about light, we're talking about visible and non visible photons, electric and magnetic fields. So this is everything from cosmic and gamma rays, really highly excited, light particles, all the way through to ultraviolet light, so X rays ultraviolet, then we've got blue, green, and red, then we've got infrared. And then we've got microwaves, radio frequencies, sound waves, and down to low frequency DC electricity, AC and then DC electricity. So So FM and AM radio, and your Bluetooth and your Wi Fi are all on that longer wavelength, side, less highly excited energy. And all the all the X ray radiation that comes from lightning bolts, or all of our medical diagnostics are on that right side. So where is the sunlight that reaches the Earth that passes through the ozone layer that hits the terrestrial Earth, where we're walking across is usually between that ultraviolet, and that infrared range. So the way to understand light is that all the light that's within this range, the ultraviolet, blue, green, red and infrared, it works with ourselves to hydrate our bodies. And we're mostly water to us mostly water, living systems, and mostly water, water is the stage that life dances on. So when we hydrate our body with the signal of light, we thrive all the other signals of light outside of that spectrum, which don't reach us Earth's surface except for the ones that we've created. So we've created Hadron Collider, which collides these particles and releases cosmic gamma rays, or the northern or southern lights, you can see in the north or south pole, they're all cosmic and gamma radiation, very short bursts, but high intensity radiation, same as X rays, X rays exist in lightning bolts, lightning strikes, and very short lived, not supposed to have a lot of exposure, but we get a lot of those that come from cathode ray tube monitors that we used to have. We also get them from fluorescent light bulbs, where you get them sometimes from high powered devices that are plugged into AC power. And these types of things are impacting our bodies, and dehydrating our bodies. Same on the other side, so the other side is the microwaves, the Bluetooth, Wi Fi, the FM radio am radio, artificial sound waves, AC electricity, electric fields, power lines, transmission lines, all those things, they sit on the other side, and the sun doesn't usually emit a lot of those down to our terrestrial Earth. So therefore, they're also dehydrating ourselves. So there was a study that showed that when we're born, we're about 80 to 85%. Water. And when we die, which were average age 78 to 85, somewhere around there, in the western civilization's, were about 55% water. So you can say, and infer that the correlation is that death is dehydration. So we're getting too much of the wrong signals, as we age, and it's impacting us worse than too many of the right signals. So firstly, we have to realise we have to get out light, right. And our light is designed to come from nature, which comes from our sun, we've created these artificial lights, which we now live under, indoors, from our screens, or phones, or those types of things, streetlights, every single one of these, not only does it isolate the solar spectrum, and therefore have a pointed effect, just like supplementing too much with one particular supplement. But also what it does is it dehydrates the body. So we find that our life our circadian rhythm, it really follows a day night cycle, a light dark cycle. And any departure from this, we realise over a period of time results in some type of dis ease, which can manifest in a particular way. So you miss a certain signal throughout the day, at a particular time, you will get a particular illness. So we're designed to wake up as just before sunrise as the sun comes up. Soon as that sun hits the horizon and starts rising up. It's full of infrared, red, green and blue. There's no ultraviolet. Susie hits about between 10 and 15 degrees to the horizon. That's when the UVA comes in that's a really important signal for the body, because it's a signal to tell your melatonin in your brain and all of your cells to start regenerating for that night's sleep. So you prepare your sleep by getting exposure to light in the morning, as the sun keeps going, it gets to 30 degrees to the horizon, then the UVB gets added to the cacophony of Symphony of frequencies. And that UVB is then there to up regulate our immune system through vitamin D function. So it's a it's a stressor from nature, that's a hormetic stressor. hormetic means good stressor, something that makes you positively adapt. And it allows the body to become more resilient and more complex, because you're capturing a higher power and sunlight, then as the sun hits its solar noon, it has another effect where it's quite strong. And so your body's trying to get more resilient during that time. And then as you go towards the end of the day, it hits 30 degrees, UVB goes away, then 10 degrees, UVA goes away, and then sunset, and then infrared, blue, and green, and red go away. And then we need darkness. But over the last 2 million years, humans have evolved fire light. So we've been able to hack nature, so that we can eat later or so that we can socialise later, or have our community activities later or have connection time later. By using fire lights, a fire light is predominantly red, so a little bit of yellow and orange in there, but it's mostly red. And so this light, we're actually able to adapt to post sunset without affecting melatonin and cortisol rhythm, which controls most of the pathways and genetic expression in the body. As John Haji Nash discovered in 2014. And in 2017, there was a Nobel prise that was awarded for the molecular mechanisms of the circadian rhythm, which describe this even further, if you're interested. So were designed to have these beautiful signals, which then also play into the ultradian rhythms which are into our rhythms. So that's like appetite, you know, bowel movements, those types of things. And the inframan rhythms, which are like things like the menstrual cycle. So the circadian rhythm helps regulate all of these biologic rhythms and keep everything in a beautiful dance a beautiful balance, so that your hormones work properly, your nervous system is regulated properly, your sleep, your genetic expression, and all of the things and it's all based around light signals.

Anthony Hartcher: 17:08

Wow, that was beautifully well put and described, I was certainly picturing what you're saying through I guess the actions you're showing. So those watching the video, Nathan was very animated. So I suggest you tune into the YouTube to see his animations and how he was describing it in an animated way. But he did it such a good way in terms of audio that you'll still get a gist of what he was saying in the podcast or in the audio version. Nathan, in terms of from the listeners and listeners here, pretty much office workers, they've got careers, there's obviously some outdoor workers that listen to my episode, but predominantly indoor, and they wake up, they could be working from home, they probably don't venture outside on this, they go outside to exercise. They're working under these artificial lights most of the day. And at the end of the day, they may not see much natural sunlight, particularly if they're in a room with not much windows and not much natural light coming in. So obviously you mentioned that's going to have consequences around health implications because they're not getting the light exposure throughout the day. So what do you recommend? How should someone that typical office worker then go about changing habits and getting better exposure to the various exposure during different parts of the day? How do you recommend they do that?

Nathan Siles: 18:35

Anthony, it's a great question. And there's good news and bad news here. And, and look, the good news is that there's a huge push towards circadian lighting. So including the company that I'm working with, we're building a whole bunch of indoor lights, which change spectrum throughout the day. So soon enough, if we get the right partnerships, we'll have these in offices, and offices will have lights that actually follow the Kelvin temperature of the day. So it will start off a little bit warmer around sunrise and it will go to a little bit more white light, which is predominantly blue during the middle portion of the day. And as it heads towards 567 pm whenever sunset is it will then go a little bit warmer, and then our lights will turn turn red afterwards. So you'll always have light. So the answer is you don't have to go back to living in the stone age living in the dark, using candles, the huge bush for this. So it's coming within the next five to 10 years. It'll be everywhere. So that's the good news. The bad news is that blue light, specifically the one the stuff that comes from your downloads, your high hats, your compact fluorescents, most bulbs, these types of things. They're all a signal to the body to tell it hey, it's solar noon as the middle of summer. So just remember next time you walk on to any white light, any led that's white, even if it's a warm white. It's still telling the body that it's the middle of the day. If Solar noon and when you're when it's the middle of the day, it's Solar noon, and it's summer, your body is designed to be either moving around really fast. It's designed to search for food. It's designed to digest food, it's designed to send a lot of energy to the muscle tissue. So this is what happens blue light is that signaling process, which raises your blood glucose, and then it affects your insulin rhythms, independent of food. So you can get diabetes, independent of food, just from a bad light environment. Now, what can people do when they have a job that precludes them from spending time outside, I'm lucky, I've structured my life. So I can do that. Not everyone has that luxury. So think of it like a clock. Every time you look at the clock, you know exactly what time it is. Now you go about your day, and you do your tasks, you do your errands, and you check your clock again, an hour later, before you check it. You try and guess what time it is, you guess, maybe 55 minutes, maybe an hour and five minutes. And it's an hour, exactly. Okay, cool, so I'm a little bit out. Now, if you go and do a three hour errand, and then you try and guess the time before you look at it, you might be 10 minutes out, if you go to a six hour errand, he may be 30 minutes out. So your body slowly loses its circadian rhythm unless it's to consistently. So the key here is to get five minute exposures every hour, if you can, or a 10 minute exposure every two hours or a 15 minute exposure every four hours. So if you can try and get your your touch to nature, in any way your eyes, skin, area, digestive tract and got right your lungs and gut, if you can get these exterior surfaces with all contained photoreceptors, they all will work with the biophysics of the body because what happens on the surfaces controls what happens underneath. So they'll get the signal as much exposure as you can to a natural light source or a new circadian lighting source, then your body will have that signal it will know okay, it's this time. And guess what, at midday, you know that your pancreatic enzymes are going to start secreting, because you're ready for lunch, or at 9am. You know, your testosterone is at its peak for the men. And so therefore, you know that that's time to turn yourself into motivation. So you want all these signals throughout the day. And we're not designed to live in this stagnant mind, state or body state. So these they're not they're not strong feelings, but they're subtle changes throughout the day. So just to give your listeners a little bit of an idea, if you have thyroid issues, it's generally the first three hours of the day that you've missed. And that's a chronic issue that you've had problems with. Generally, if you have muscular skeletal issues, you're missing the last two or three hours a day and maybe the first hour. If you have any type of cancer, you're missing that wedge in the middle of the day, if you have sleep issues, you're missing that about an hour after sunrise to about three or four hours after sunrise. So these windows associated with particular conditions, and it's about spotting, what your proclivity is, is it weight management, is it particular thyroid condition or an adrenal condition, and then find out which parts of sunlight you've missed for that particular day and make a little effort, even if it's five minutes, give your body an engine or take a mile. So do what you can with what you have. But the most important signals for the entire day, sunrise, solar noon, and sunset. So make sure you get those are fantastic.

Anthony Hartcher: 23:21

And so well explained and simple to apply. Really, I mean, finding that five minutes each hour, is I guess you could apply that Pomodoro principle, you know, in terms of chunking, your work down into blocks, and then taking that break outside getting the sun exposure at that time of the day. And then getting back onto the next block of indoor work or whatever. Or maybe go for a walk and talk with your team outside. So I was just thinking, whilst you were explaining the conditions associated with various parts of the day and lack of that sun exposure, I was just thinking around mental health, because mental health is the tipping point at the moment. You know, given that we've just been through the pandemic, we've been really isolated around social connection, we've spent probably more time indoors and not being able to go outdoors and things like that. And so is there a time of the day that people are missing, if there any type of mental health or is it particular to a condition of mental health for a time of day?

Nathan Siles: 24:19

Yeah, totally. So it is particular based on there. There are broad categories, but it is relatively particular. The thing that everyone is really understand is that when it comes to a mental health condition, and you won't hear this from any conventional doctor, or mostly even integrative medicine doctors, they're not fully aware of this because it's to do with the clock timing in your body. So anytime you have a mental issue, whether it's a depressive situation or a schizophrenic situation, you have an altered time perception. So an ADHD brain it thinks it can't estimate time very well. And it thinks times flying really really fast. So it's hyper productive because time's flying. So what they found in studies is that an ADHD brain will actually overestimate time. And you'll get, they'll get more done. But they'll complain that there's not enough time, whereas you have depression. And it's the opposite. It's Have you ever heard of anyone going through depression in your life, and they say, why I'm so bored, why can't time just speed up this sucks, like, whatever it is. So it's an altered perception that's slowing downtime in a normally slowing biologic time is a great thing, because you slow aging. And in many ways, that's what depression is, it is a self Preservation Act, to slow down your biologic time. Because if you had have kept going as fast as you did, you would have died faster. So all of these mental health conditions, just like physical conditions, have a lot of wisdom and there are adaptive processes. So chronic fatigue prevents you from having a heart attack. thyroid conditions prevent you from having a cancer, and we diabetes, and obesity, and so excess metabolic syndrome and things like that. So, you know, everything has its trained stops, and mental health conditions, which are blowing up everywhere. And there's, in my opinion, there's no great solutions. And I don't believe medication should be the first point of call. But brain perception of time is a really important phenomenon to research and, and it's very well published from an autistic brain to an ADHD brain to an OCD brain. All of these conditions have that characteristic. Now, in terms of addressing your question, specifically, time of day for these mental conditions, like I said, they're challenging and in terms of their in categories, but most of the time, people who have these challenges, they can't handle strong solar noon sunlight. And the reason is because they are generally chronically sunlight deficient, they're semi conductive proteins in their body are so light deficient, that their bodies strategy has evolved this mental coping mechanism, which has allowed them to thrive in their own particular way, in their current environmental conditions, making the choices that they have been making. So the most important part of this is they get early morning light, because that's a softer light, remember less than 10 degrees to the horizon. When the sun's there, it doesn't have UV in it. So no, no one should be scared of any type of solar radiation in the first hour to two hours of sunlight. Depending on where you are in the world. If you're in Tasmania, it's probably the first two hours. If you're in Cannes, it's probably the first hour that there's no UV. So this time it it sets your neurotransmitter function, and it lowers the inflammation in the brain, it clears out the misfolded proteins, which are associated with all neurodegenerative conditions. And it allows the the healthy transport of nutrients and minerals and peptides through the brain so that you can function optimally, so the way that you go. So that's step one for mental health. Step two, is once you have had enough of that, let's say four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks of watching sunrise every day, then you can start building in the strongest sunlight. Now, what we do know is dopamine is one of the key neurotransmitters in most of these conditions, either excess or too little, so too little Parkinson's and depression, too much schizophrenia, right. So the way to regulate dopamine properly is to have adequate UV light exposure because dopamine is created from tyrosine an aromatic amino acid working with UV light. So we need these types of light. Now, every time there's UV light, there's always infrared in nature, the sun is 51%, red and infrared light all day long. So any any light that's ever used anywhere, needs read an infrared light accompanied with it. So that's a that's a failsafe so anyone who's trying to sell you any vitamin D lamps or UV lamps or blue light, if you're under blue lights, or any of these things need to add the red and infrared back into it. So when I say UV light works to build dopamine, I say red and infrared plus UV light works to build dopamine in the neurotransmitter network through the brain. Same as serotonin, same as melatonin, same as T3, same as NAD, every single one of those are built from Red, infrared and UV light exposure on the eye, and the skin. And so these are the things you want to slowly get your body back into building slowly whilst you're doing that early morning light exposure so you can get your body used to it and be able to up regulate your brain function and get rid of that brain fog and find a strategy to get out of the rut that you're in or to come down from the rush in the hurry theory.

Anthony Hartcher: 29:35

You raise a great point in terms of cancers predominantly lack of noon solar noon sun and then you said most of mental health is because of the lack of solar noon sun and we're told from an early age to get out of the solar noon sun it is the most dangerous and most, you know, I guess you know, skin cancer generator even, and that's probably what the driver is, is to prevent skin cancer. Now, this is where I sort of had a flicker switch when you were sharing this in the previous webinar that I attended. And I was thinking, wow, what a shift in paradigm in terms of, you know, the kids playing under all this shade and suncream lathered up with sun cream with hats and everything. And so we have this, you know, these, these mental health conditions are arising in teenage years, or even before teenage years, early adolescence, and then, you know, cancers even popping up in children and whatnot. And I'm thinking, Well, you've, you know, you've said, there's this correlation here. And so what have you got to say, around the afternoon sun exposure? And how do we do it properly?

Nathan Siles: 30:52

Yeah, it's great to understand sort of where a lot of these myths have come from. So I'll just bust a few quickly, so your listeners will understand, you can go back and look this up. So sunglasses were invented, and become mainstream, around 1929 to 1935. Around that time, sunglasses became our first barrier for our eyes to filter out the ultraviolet spectrum. A lot of health conditions blew up after that, because our major circadian oscillator, which is our super cosmetic nucleus, or SCN, in the brain, sits there right at the front of the hypothalamus, which is our master clock controls all the peripheral clocks in front of every single gene in every single cell in our body tunes to that SCN right here. So it's now getting an altered light signal, an altered time signal. And it's now leading to global issues within the body, and a lower a lower level of energy and information from nature. So we're already feeling a disconnection that we're already had clothes that disconnected us prior to that, so that was our first, then we decided to put glasses on sunglasses on. Then we decided to put sunscreen on our skin to cover our largest organ, our skin. So we're now filtering the spectrum on our skin. Once again, we have neuropsin and photoreceptors. So this is a UV light detector, specifically, protein designed in the body specifically designed to pay attention to UV light signals. So it's on the cornea, it's an all our skin, it's in our gut, it's in our lungs. Why would nature or God or evolution put it there? Why would it put UV light there if you're not designed to receive it. So the fact that people are not able to receive UV light, they have skin breakouts, they have burning, they have all these sorts of issues. It means once again, just like the mental illness stuff, you're not ready to see that light, you're ready to you have to do more mornings before you can get out there. Now, it's almost like a little bit scary when, you know, your body's not strong enough to be able to handle nature, let alone another stressor on top of that, like all that work stresses or exercise pressures that we have to try and be fit and athletic. And, you know, all these other things that stress us out, we can't even handle just living with nature, like we've done for 200,000 years. So it's a knock knock on nature's door, saying, hey, just remember, you've departed too much from nature, and you need to come back to it. So that's the clothing, sunglasses and the skin. But what happens is when you block one surface and not another is you then create a circadian mismatch. So inflammatory pathways begin to upregulate when your brain perceives a particular time of day, let's say your brain has got you got sunglasses on your brain now says, oh, it's early morning, or it's late afternoon, your skin goes oh, no, it's mid day, I'm sending all the signals to the brain to secrete cortisol and all the other awesome hormones that you need during midday. But the brain is going on and I'm just waking up I'm not hungry yet. Downregulates metabolism down regulates appetite, and so you've got this conflicting signal inside the body, which is then causing huge amounts of peptide dysregulation, gut microbiome destruction, all this sorts of stuff. And this is where you have huge amounts of issues related to autoimmunity, which is popped up out of nowhere. So the body fighting itself because you're not letting it have a coherent signal. So there's that. The other thing is, you'll never find a cancer case skin cancer case of someone that has high vitamin D, and we make vitamin D from UVB sunlight, that's the middle of the day, right when the sun's above 30 degrees. So this whole thing that dermatologists are peddling around skin cancers being linked to UV radiation, it can't be that they're mutually exclusive. So that's a total myth that you need to get rid of. Like I said, Be careful with the sun. If you haven't been in it for a while. You have to use more red and infrared in the morning. Then you can go out and midday but there is nothing wrong with burning except for losing some skin stem cells. I mean, yeah, it hurts when you sleep and it keeps you up a little bit. Your skin peels because you're losing the skin stem cells. But in my view, you personally do not get skin cancer from burning too much. You can't because that would mean that you have high vitamin D So we now also live in this altered world where we have microwave radiation everywhere. So you can actually get tanned, you can get lots of UV light exposure without making vitamin D, if you're standing next to your Bluetooth speaker, or next to your Wi Fi router, or next to your phone, which is connected to Spotify. So that can actually uncouple the vitamin D synthesis process in the skin, from sulfate to cholesterol because there's no water to hydrate that reaction. Because the EMF is dehydrated, remember from the start of the podcast. So we've then got another layered issue in there, which is confusing people and saying, Oh, that I understand, and I've got a skin cancer, okay, maybe you've got too much wireless radiation around you. Maybe you've got a Wi Fi router in your house, or maybe you're not sunbathing on the on the earth, and you're doing it on a rooftop on concrete where you're not grounded, so you haven't got a complete electrical signal, so you're burning much faster. So you can find that I'm up on my deck here, when I'm laying down on my grass, just two meters down there, it takes me an extra hour to get red in the sun. But it does appear because I'm already transmuting all the energy and making this beautiful, beautiful electrical current through my body when I'm grounded. When I'm up here, my skin goes a little bit red, a little bit faster. So it's the same thing with with all of that. So in the afternoons to address your question, it's a time where the light exposure is not strongest, its strongest during solar noon. But generally, it's the time that after the sun has been up for a period of time, your body has absorbed already a decent amount of photonic radiation in a good way, if it's full spectrum without sunscreen without contact lenses without skin covering without any of that. And so then in the afternoon, you notice the effects more just because you've got your dose for the day already. So it's actually not worse in the afternoon. It's just that it seems worse because people don't have the resilience. So for me, I tested this right, so I'm white boy, Melbourne, German mom, you know, very non equatorial, I can show you photos, I can send you them later of me when I was going through my key and I was pasty white goes down. Now he's looking at me, I'm tan now, when I lived over in Mexico, I had to prove it up index 15/20 latitude, I laid out at the beach the entire day, going back forth, back rolling on my back and all my stomach and my back my stomach, I didn't get I didn't get I didn't peel. I woke up the next day, I didn't have any soreness. And that was six years ago. So I've done this for the last eight years, the amount of cholesterol that I've eaten, and the amount of sunlight that I've got, I shouldn't have multiple cancers and multiple heart attacks multiple organ failures. I don't, because they're all myths. So the more sunlight you can get, the better. Just be safe with it and get the mornings off before you get the midday stuff

Anthony Hartcher: 37:47

Aight, so what I'm seeing a lot of practice is high cholesterol. So it seems to be like a it's just a verging everywhere, either. I'm just one practitioner that seeing a lot of cases. But it seems that I'm hearing in conversations with family members friends, that, you know, the doctor said they've got concerning cholesterol. And, there's that knowing cholesterol is the backbone to making hormones the backbone to making vitamin D. And I'm thinking is there through your studies, Have you found some sort of connection with high LDL cholesterol and the lack of certain light exposure?

Nathan Siles: 38:31

Yeah, no, completely. You're exactly right. So LDL cholesterol is not the bad cholesterol, there is no bad cholesterol. So medical practitioners will have you think that there's a good and a bad. There was the massive meta analysis study that was done. I think it was 30 years ago busted that myth already. So in many ways, it's old news, but it hasn't bled into the medical system at the moment. So HDL cholesterol has been linked with high levels of HDL cholesterol. It's been linked with longevity. What they found in the study is that low levels of LDL cholesterol was associated with the earliest deaths. So you don't want low LDL cholesterol. We know that now, the debate they have is there's high LDL cholesterol, which is causing harm. So in many ways, it's like blaming the forgot a burning house. It's like blaming the doormat that you find there as the reason that the house burned down. So it's actually it's a total misnomer to go and blame LDL cholesterol when you dive down into it, and every medical practitioner who does LDL cholesterol tests on their patients should be doing this. They should be looking down at the smaller versions of cholesterol so that the LDL and the s&d, LDL, so the small dense LDL particles are the ones that have been sitting there for a long time. Now these small particles are very dense and they can tend to in combination with inflammatory cytokines, they can cause plaque issues and actual clogged arteries in the body and veins. So this is where we can get issues to do with cholesterol. It's the small dense LDL, the VLDL, which is that fluffy, beautiful cholesterol that turns into all our sex steroid hormones. It's there to sulfate in the skin, so that we can produce our immune system powering vitamin D, this cholesterol is actually incredibly positive for the body, it's super beneficial to have. And when you have high levels of it, it shows that you haven't had enough sunlight because sunlight sulfates, the cholesterol. So this is where most people struggle with high cholesterol is you'll find their skins quite pale. Now, the cholesterol in the skin is really important. You said you said a specific type of light for this cholesterol excess Well, it's actually all light, UV light, sulfates cholesterol much faster than all the other wavelengths of light, but all sunlight, consult cholesterol and can turn cholesterol into all of the other biomolecules that it needs to turn into. So as well as the trapped light inside the body, it does the same thing. So cholesterol in the skin is actually designed to be seasonally changing, just like our omega threes and ask it and so in summer, were designed to have more LDL cholesterol, so sorry, more HDL cholesterol, and we're designed to have more omega six in our cell membranes. The reason why is because these have because omega six works better with that seasonal cycle as well as cholesterol. HDL cholesterol works better with sulfur metabolism, and HDL cholesterol has more electrons to capture the light in the cell membranes during summer. Now when we go to winter, our metabolism turns from a sulfur based protein semi conductive system to a nitrogen based semi conductive system when nitric oxide and nitrogen transport is used much more. Now this is where LDL cholesterol comes in. So LDL cholesterol, it's sorry, I flipped it the wrong way. HDL cholesterol is in winter with nitrogen, LDL cholesterol is in summer with sulfur. So there's more electrons in the HDL to capture the scarcity of light during winter. And there's less electrons in LDL cholesterol to capture the excess of light that's available in summer. So if you have, if you have excess hot, low density lipoprotein LDL, you just need to get a lot more light, and especially the midday light, which will then functionally turn LDL cholesterol into all the other beautiful biomarkers. And in the same breath, it's important to look at your inflammatory levels. So in clinic you'd measure HCRP Highly Sensitive Reactive Protein, or a HbA1C, or interleukins, or any of these other cytokines, and you'd look at those and you'd go okay, if a person has high inflammatory markers, and high LDL cholesterol, then you've got a case for a little bit, little bit of potential danger there. And I guarantee that same person is light deficient. When I say light, I mean all light morning, midday evening, all of it. And so it's important to remedy that root cause first before you touch any of the biochemistry with any crazy medication standards, things like that. The only reason students work is because they they help lower SD LDL, the small dense LDL. So in some ways they do work because they do that. But they just deplete you of all the fuel to create all the hormones. So it's a double edged sword when you try and attack something from a biochemistry standpoint without looking at the biophysics context.

Anthony Hartcher: 43:40

Well, Nathan, you've busted so many myths thus far on the episode and my mind is just blowing with the amount of myth busting you shared in. And I'm sure that listeners are also just shifting paradigms. You're obviously really empowering and enlightening their well being through what you shared today. Just so the listeners that are really engaged and following what you're saying and think I could do with a hell of a lot more. I'd love a bit of more support or consulting with you. How can they best connect with you, Nathan?

Nathan Siles: 44:13

Yeah, look, the best way to go about it is to go on. https://www.itsnowyou.com/. This is my consulting part of my job, my love,my life. It's where you can find a lot of blogs. You can find my previous podcasts you can find lots of information that I've brought together and built upon Dr. Jack Cruz's work, Dr. Gerald Pollock's work and Dr. Nick Lane's work., Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt's work. All these guys are geniuses in their own rights and they have places that you can go to, to learn much, much more if you want to go very deep on the sides. If you want to get a greater understanding of how nature works, and if you want to learn how your body works, you know there's so much educational material out there but also on my website through the blog section and these types of areas. I do through personal consulting on very scarce level, I really only deal with cancer patients these days who are usually stage three or stage four. So they're quite severe, who desperately need help, because they're the ones that I can find the most help with. Most people have left them alone. But if you do have any, any conditions or concerns that you're looking into, and you think that after this podcast, you know, they're like related, you can reach out to me on my website, send me an inquiry in there, I usually always reply within a day. And we if we want to do a consult together, if you say that you've spoken with Anthony, you're in this community, I can try and add you in on a priority order into my consulting area. So I'm writing two books, I've got two businesses, I'm building a lot of health products and things. And I'm working collaboratively with professional athletes over in the US. So I travel a lot, I work a lot, and I don't have a huge amount of capacity. But I'm definitely open to people if they really need it. And they feel very motivated. I'm definitely there for you,

Anthony Hartcher: 46:01

Thank you for sharing all that useful resource information, I'll make sure that those resources are linked in the show notes. And, Nathan, I really appreciate your time, I know it's really valuable, you've really, really empowered and enlighten the well being of these listeners pleased to hear what you've had to say and how you've shared it and articulated in a way that they can make a difference in their lives around introducing more light, you've made it really simple in terms of getting that five minutes of exposure every hour, it's very achievable for most of us. And as you said, if you can't get it, you miss an hour, you know, over a two hour period make sure you get 10 minutes so I really like how you've simplified you know, what we need to do for listeners it is it is straightforward and it can really help with you know, related health conditions you shared in terms of what spectrum of light they might be deficient in based on certain health conditions. So really appreciate you coming on today and spending the time and really educating the listeners me&my health up.

Nathan Siles: 47:08

Yeah, my pleasure, Anthony, I'm really happy to help. Remember, yep, reconnect with nature, connect with nature inside yourself. And you know, block that artificial light whenever you can, and you'll protect your timing in your body.

Anthony Hartcher: 47:21

Thank you, Nathan and thank you listeners for tuning in to another insightful episode of me and my health. If you found this really insightful and you know someone out there that could really benefit around what Nathan's spoken to today then please share the episode I'd really like it to get out to people that it can help so please share it if you know of anyone that could really benefit in listening to Nathan's wisdom. So thank you listeners and thanks once again. Nathan

Nathan Siles: 47:51

Thanks Anthony.

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