How to Re-Wire Your Brain for a Healthy Mindset with Dr John Demartini

Do you struggle with creating healthy habits that stick???

In this episode of me&my health up we speak with World-Renowned Human Behaviour Expert Dr John Demartini and discuss how you can Re-Wire your Brain for a Healthy Mindset to create Lasting Healthy Change.

About Dr John Demartini

Dr. John Demartini is a polymath and a world-renowned human behaviour expert. He has over four decades of research across multiple disciplines. His work has been described by students as the "most comprehensive body of work", "an extensive library of wisdom" and "wisdom of the highest and most valuable order."

Dr. Demartini's mission and vision is to share knowledge and wisdom that empowers you to become a master of your own life and destiny.

He's an internationally published author, a global educator and the founder of the Demartini Method, a revolutionary tool in modern psychology.

His education curriculum ranges from personal growth seminars to corporate empowerment programs. He shares life, business, financial, relationship and leadership empowerment strategies and empowerment tools that have stood the test of time.

To learn more, visit: https://drdemartini.com

About me&my Health Up & Host

me&my Health Up seeks to enhance and enlighten the wellbeing of others. Host Anthony Hartcher is the CEO of me&my wellness which provides holistic health solutions using food is medicine, combined with a holistic, balanced, lifestyle approach. Anthony holds three bachelor's degrees in Complementary Medicine; Nutrition and Dietetic Medicine; and Chemical Engineering.

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Dr John Demartini: 0:00

Look carefully inside yourself about what you really spontaneously are inspired to do and committed to doing. And don't compare yourself to others. Compare your daily actions to what's truly most priority and meaningful to you, and stick to parties. Learn to say thank you, but no, thank you. I'm on a mission. And I have a high priority thing that I'm to do. And don't try to distract yourself because everybody in the world around you is trying to impose on you according to their values, what they think is important for you to do. And if you don't discern between what's truly meaningful to you, you'll probably dilute your potential and meaning and fulfillment. So give yourself permission to be you. Why be second being somebody else when you can be first being you and give yourself permission to shine, not shrink and do some extraordinary, not ordinary, because the true you is extraordinary. The false you is diluted and you'll fit in instead of stand out.

Anthony Hartcher: 0:56

That was Dr. Demartini, and this is the me and my health up podcast show. And I'm your host Anthony Hartcher, a clinical nutritionist and lifestyle medicine specialists. The purpose of this podcast is to enhance and enlighten your well being and today we are blessed to have Dr. John Demartini. Dr. DE Martini is a world renowned human behavior expert. He has over four decades of research across multiple disciplines. His work has been described by students as the most comprehensive body of work and extensive library of wisdom and wisdom of the highest and most valuable order. Dr. Demartini his mission and vision is shared across knowledge and wisdom that empowers you to become a master of your life and destiny. He is an international published author, a global educator and the founder of the Demartini method, a revolutionary tool in modern psychology. His education curriculum ranges from personal growth seminars to corporate empowerment programs. He shares his life business, financial relationship and leadership, empowerment strategies and empowerment tools that have stood the test of time. And today's episode, Dr. Demartini is going to be helping us rewire our brain for a healthy mindset. So without much further ado, I'd love to welcome you into the discussion with Dr. John Demartini. Welcome Dr. John Demartini. To the mayor, my health podcast show. How are you today? I'm doing great. And thank you for having me. I feel so honored. And I'm sure the listeners are very honored to have you on the show. remarkable story and background and you know how you have come to doing what you're doing today. And I'm just thinking there might be a minut minority of people listening that may not have come across your great work that you're doing around the world. So I was just wondering if you could share a bit about your backstory just to bring them into the picture of how you have arrived or what you're doing today.

Dr John Demartini: 3:11

The brief version. I had a number of challenges when I was a child. Definitely learning challenges. Speaking challenges, arm and leg that was deformed, told I would never be able to read write or communicate never mountain thing never go very far in life as a first grader trying to go to school had to wear a dunce cap. When I was a kid, only we made it through elementary school to help us asking smart kids questions. So I would ask questions and they would elaborate and I would get enough to pass school that worked till I was 12 I moved to a small socio economic area, small town didn't have a bunch of smart kids dropped out of school became a street kid 13. And pretty well. You know, this is the 60s So this was the free love days and party days and stuff and Vietnam days, hitchhiked to California when I was 14 and down into Mexico to go surfing, because that was something I loved doing. Made it to Hawaii when I was 15. Surfing, lived on the North Shore, first under a bridge and a park bench than in a bathroom and then an abandoned cart and finally a tent kept social climbing road big waves then nearly died when I was 17. That led me to this experience of meeting a man who is doing a lecture on the North Shore. And that one night one man named Paul Bragg inspired me to believe that I could overcome my learning problems and be intelligent someday. Which some I wasn't expecting to to have happened that night. But that inspired me to eventually go back to California, hitchhiked back to Texas, take a GED high school equivalency test. Tried to go back to school failed again. And then almost gave up on the goal being intelligent, and a teacher, which is what I wanted to do. And my mom found me crying in the living room, she said, what's wrong? So what happened? I said, I failed the test, I got a 27 on you to 72 to pass. And she said, some of you become a teacher, like you dream about and learn to read and everything. Whether you go back to ride big waves or return to the streets, I just want to let you know your father and I are gonna love you no matter what. And when she said that my Hammond into a fist, I made a determination. I summon a massive sinkhole reading and studying him in a massive sinkhole teaching. And I'm going to do whatever it takes travel whatever distance pay whatever price to give my service, of learning and teaching. And I went into my room and I locked myself in a room with a dictionary. And I started memorizing a dictionary. And my mom and I would test me on 30 words, a day into my vocabulary was strong enough to get in past school. For the next two years, I put in about 20,000 words into my head. And I started to actually do well, to my surprise, and my teaching career started at 18. And November, this year will be 50 years since it all started. And that led me to go on to school, get an advanced degree, become a doc, Teach First locally than around the state and then around the nation. And now I've been able to speak, I've spoken 170 countries now. I love it. And I, with the help zoom, I'm getting to do even more. But I made a goal to do that I have still haven't been to every country on the face of the earth. And I'm still working on it.

Anthony Hartcher: 6:32

What a remarkable story of so much adversity have faced over those years and how you've overcome that to what you're doing today is truly remarkable. And you're certainly the right person to help the listeners in terms of how they can rewire their brain for a healthy mindset. And that's the title of today's discussion is how to help the listeners do that. And in particularly, in the current circumstances, where we find ourselves going through unprecedented sort of levels of change. And particularly with COVID. With a reopening and entertainment, being back on travel, being back on health could drop away as a person's priority, because they're going to, as you say, in the gratitude affects fill those voids with a desire. So I'm really keen to have this discussion as to how a person can rewire their brain for a healthy mindset.

Dr John Demartini: 7:24

Well, every human being has a set of priorities, that they live their life by a set of values, things that are most least important in life, and everyone has a different highest priority. Some people have a high priority on learning like mine was later on. Some people have a high value on business, some have the height on wealth, some have it on relationships, I'm gonna have it on social contribution, some have health, and some have spiritual pursuits. And no one's right or wrong for whatever their highest values are. Their hierarchy of values are unique to them. And it dictates how they perceive decide and act. And every decision and action they take is based on what they believe at that moment, we have the greatest advantage or disadvantage. So if an individual doesn't perceive the primary action steps that are proven to help wealth and longevity, or health and longevity, they're probably going to bypass those and go to things that are what they think are more valuable at that moment. So if they can't see how those action steps that have proven the test of time to help wellbeing, wellness, and maximizing, you know, performance and health, if they don't see how that's gonna get them what they are looking for, they're not likely to get around to doing it. And they'll, they'll have to be reminded and extrinsically motivated to do so one of the great questions is to first learn from yourself and from other experts. What are those action steps that are solid and demonstrated to be health conscious and healthy? And then ask how specifically is doing this action, helping me fulfill what is most important, what my life is already demonstrating without having to be extrinsically motivated? Because unless they make a link between the action steps that are really priority, and what's really important, unless there's a link the brain bypasses it, because they're focusing on what they think is important. And when they make a link and answer that question, and I don't mean one time, I mean, 30 times or 50 times, how specifically is doing this action that is known to be wellness and conscious, helping me get my business, how is he going to help me attract a mate? How's it going to help me in my spiritual contribution? If they answer that question, and they may need some help on that, but once they answer that question, the more they do the moral neuroplastic pathways, neural pathways of doing those actions get incorporated into the brain. And now you see more advantage and disadvantage doing that than what you were doing. And you start to become make a habit out of that. spontaneously, because if you have to require extrinsic motivation, you get to do it all the time, you have to be around a trainer or health coach, whatever, constantly pushing you. But if you make those links, the more you make the links, and the more you get the habits, and the more you get the rewards and more, you see how it's helping you get what you want, the more you incorporate it into your life and becomes a pattern of, you know, wise habits. So it's about asking how specifically is doing these action steps that are proven the test of time on health, and well being? How specific is going to help me build my business? You know, I had a young boy that he was probably just about 20. He was sitting there not doing anything health wise. And he wanted to be an entrepreneur. And so what I did, because his parents were concerned about his health. I did, I said, so let's take the top entrepreneurs out there that you admire, and they list them. I said, Let's go online, and let's find out what their health health regime is. And once we found out that they were doing certain health regimes, he immediately put it in, because his mind now sees, if I want to be like this person, they do this. And so he immediately saw the links to his top people. So that's the beauty of Google, you can find stuff like that. But what I did is I helped him make a link, that if I want to accomplish something, here's what it's gonna take. And once he saw his mentors do that he immediately go, Okay, well, they do that it must be important, so I better do it. And that was all it took to get him started on that. But once you see those connections in those links, you're increasing the probability with every answer, you answer that question, you're increasing the probably, of doing those behaviors, and that will enhance your performance. Anybody in business knows that if your energy levels are up, your vitality is up, you're eating wisely, you're doing some exercise, your performance is gonna go up. And that's well established. But it lets people see it and make connections on their own. It doesn't become intrinsic, it has to be extrinsic motivation.

Anthony Hartcher: 11:56

And I'm just thinking of this particular person that's been starved of not being able to travel the world and they love travel, they really value travel, it's high on the value list. And they'll they can like the world's their oyster, they can get out and travel. But if they have associations of travel with eating unhealthy and drinking and doing everything to the excess, so with that particular person, you would then relate health and well being back to a value that's important to them. Or how would you disassociate this, I guess, travel with doing excessive things such as drinking and eating bad food?

Dr John Demartini: 12:37

Well, I travel I've done over 20 million miles. I've got I think, George Clooney, I've doubled him over him and up in the air whenever I don't find that travel, by itself is the initiator of drinking because I don't drink. And I've traveled 20 million miles. And I find quality foods wherever I go, you know, I don't have a problem finding them. Rarely do I have a real glitch on finding him some little rinky dinky airport or something I may be in. But I usually find something that's quality food wherever I go. So if it's high enough on the values, when the wine is big enough to house take care of themselves. I always say that if you're not filling your day with something deeply meaningful, and filling up the blood supply into the executive center of the brain, where you have self governance and do wise actions, and are more objective, your brain automatically goes down into the amygdala and the amygdala is more likely to want to drink. You know, overeat. It's the amygdala that does that. So usually, that means that you are not having something deeply meaningful and inspiring to fill your day with while you're traveling. And if you're just doing that, and you have no accountabilities, it's meaningful. You know, if I ask people, I've asked millions of people, what is the most most fulfilling moments in your life, you can almost guarantee it's when you're doing something that is meaningful, and that's fulfilling, and it's serving another individual that's making them a thank you. When you do that, your blood goes into the executive center, which is a self governing center, and calms down the amygdala, which is the addiction center, and the overeating and drinking center. And you're, you don't end up doing those behaviors. So I would suggest, if you're going to travel to do it in a way where something extremely meaningful is there that they have, it's too important not to be able to fully engage in. So you don't want to drink and overeat because you don't feel your best while you're engaging in it. And then what that'll do is it'll increase the probability of when they go there, they have a purpose, because you don't have a purpose. You seek pleasure, all the time, meaning gratification, have some purpose. It's meaningful when you travel. That's deeply important to that you don't want to mess it up by over eating and drinking and not be president with it. That would be my suggestion. Because I always say that, you know, money without meaning leads to debauchery. Money with meaning leads to philanthropy, and you feel more fulfilled when you're Doing something that contributes and you do when you get drunk and overeating, you feel, you get immediate gratification, but then hours later you don't feel so great. And as long as you separate in your mind pleasure from pain, your amygdala runs your life. But when you put those together and realize that while you're eating that overeating, you're actually the pain of that is that you're, you're not feeling well in the stomach, you're you're slugged, you know, you're not performing well, and you're sleeping. And when you realize that those are the pains and pleasures there, you're more likely to be governed and more likely to be back up. So it's so important to have really important and meaningful objective while you're traveling.

Anthony Hartcher: 15:36

Absolutely. And there's there's no doubt that you certainly do having read the gratitude effect and the value factors book, I certainly got that. Well, and truly, and my next question is in relation to the values factors, you talk about how it's important to find balance and find balance between sympathetic activity and parasympathetic activity. And, you know, as a health professional, I see a lot of sympathetic dominance within people. They're constantly in that sympathetic state. And you've talked about the amygdala. And that's, you know, always seeking, I guess, pleasure, and it's out of balance. And in your book, you talk a lot about, you know, finding this true balance and seeing the world as completely balanced. And so I'd love you to share. Well, also in the book, you say the Cornerstone is gratitude, and love is a cornerstone to wellness. So I think I'd love for you to share your views around this thing of wellness and how it's tied to gratitude and love and how it's important to have balance in your life.

Dr John Demartini: 16:39

I'm gonna take a minute on this one, because this is a good one. I just did a presentation yesterday for four hours on this. As I said, we have a set of values in our life that are priorities, hierarchy of values, whatever is highest on our value, our identity revolves around whatever is low in our values we disown. So we own so my highest value is teaching. Second one is learning researching. So my lowest value is probably cooking and driving. I haven't driven a car in 32 years, I haven't cooked since I was 24. Anything is low on your values, is wise to delegate. Because anytime you do things low on your values, you devalue yourself. Anytime you do the things that are highest priority, and highest in value, you value yourself, and so as the world. So I've delegated all lower priority things. So I can stick to the things that inspire me because whatever is highest on your value, and spontaneously inspires you from within. Now, so that's one of the most significant things in wellness is living by priority, living by what's really meaningful, because then the blood glucose and oxygen goes into the executive center where you're governing yourself. And when you're more objective and neutral and more balanced. Because if you don't, and you do lower party things, the unfulfillment and the blood glucose and oxygen going to the Megillah makes you immediately want to avoid challenge and seek ease and avoid pain and seek pleasure and go back into polarized, addictive, immediate gratifying behaviors impulse. And that leads you into a bipolar swinging state instead of a balanced state. So you'd have illness instead of wellness. And if you live by high priority and activate the executive center, the executive center is also called the gratitude center. And you're getting to do what you're in love. Because it's high in priority, it's meaningful. The mean by Aristotle's term was the mean between pairs of opposites of excess and deficiency. And that's what the amygdala is, it's an excess and deficiency in the executive center is governed into a balanced mean state. So you extract meaning out of your experiences. Also, whenever you look up at somebody to exaggerate somebody, put them on a pedestal, you'll minimize yourself relative to them. And when you minimize yourself, you're not being yourself, you're being a persona, a mask a facade of less than who you are. And if you look down on somebody in judgment, look down on him, put them in the pit, exaggerate yourself, and you go into pride. And again, a facade, a mask and a persona. And the moment you exaggerate yourself, you're not being yourself. Every human being wants to be loved for who they are. But as long as they're looking down on somebody and being exaggerated, or looking up at somebody minimizing they're not being who they are, they can't be loved who they are, because they're not being who there. But the second you have reflective awareness, and don't put people on pedestals or pitch but put them in your heart and love somebody with pure reflective awareness, which means you're not too proud or too humble to admit what you see in them inside you. You own what you see, because it's a projection of your own evaluation. Once you own that, balance that and are really you, you get to love you as you love them. You can't love another person without loving you and vice versa. I proven that in my breakthrough Experience Program for almost four decades. And what's interesting is the moment you do and it's balanced, the executive center comes on the gratitude center comes on. Gratitude is a perfectly balanced mind. When you have a perfect balanced mind, and you're authentic, you're grateful because you get to be you. And nobody wants to be have to put on a facade to be with people. So, gratitude and love automatically when they're balanced, they balanced the autonomic because when you put people on a pedestal, and inject values, that's a parasympathetic site, when you put him in a pit, that's a fight or flight side, because you're looking down on and resenting him versus infatuating. When you fetch him, you want to eat him with a parasympathetic, when you want to avoid him with the sympathetic when you're looking down on him. But when you look across at him, you have a nice balance, and you have a reflective awareness. And that's the one that allows the autonomic Do you want to balance now when the autonomics are perfectly balanced, the parasympathetic perfectly balanced, the heart rate variability goes up, your resilience and adaptability to life goes up. And you have used stress and resiliency and adaptability, instead of distress, and the inability to adapt to a changing environment. So your wellness quotient goes up, your love and appreciation goes up, your authenticity goes up. And every sign and symptom that the autonomics create in the body are feedback mechanisms to get you back to authenticity. It's almost like the body's creating symptoms in your in your life, to try to let you know but we don't know how to interpret it. We're so used to an allopathic approach, where you take a pill for every ill when you don't feel well, that you just take some and you suppress the symptoms, palliative Lee has to have curatively. But each of those symptoms are actually feedback mechanisms to guide us into homeostasis back into balance back to authenticity back into our highest priority where we can be objective, and engage with an inspiration to fulfill something meaningful in life. So if you interpret your physiology and the symptoms wisely, they actually guide you back to authenticity. So it can be loved for who you are.

Anthony Hartcher: 21:54

And that's exactly what your parents said to you. And it's really like was like a rocket behind you. Once your parents said, you know, they love you unconditionally, for who you are. And it sort of gave you the momentum and the old, certainly the motivation momentum, and it just grew and grew from there.

Dr John Demartini: 22:11

I'm grateful for my mom that at that moment, because I was in a distraught moment, curled up in a fetal position underneath her little Bible stand in the living room. And if she hadn't said that, I don't know I might have gone back to Hawaii and just stayed with surfing. But that was a major turning point. It was like there was no turning back at that moment. There's no option now we're going forward, we're making this happen. And unreal, if it's if anybody's ever tried to memorize 30 words a day when you have dyslexia, but I did it, we did it, we I would not go to bed until I could spell the words, say the words properly, put them in a sentence, extract the meaning and repeat it. And I would spend hours to get those 30 words I'm not talking about just did you know, here and there. And it was a determination because I knew that if I could get those vocabularies up, that I could understand those words, I could begin to read and I could begin to speak and I could be able to, you know, get extract meaning and pass. So it was really important me and boy did it accelerate from going from failing to the top of the class within a very short period of time. I mean, it was it was really quite interesting, when I just made a determination, there is no turning back. Everybody else in school was interested in just kind of partying, you know, they kind of had to go to school, I wanted to go to school. And so I it was a different game for me. And then I learned that one, the fastest way to learn something is to teach it. So if I read something, and I immediately have somebody to give it to, and recite it back in my own words or whatever, I retain it. Retention of knowledge is based on the speed of input to output. So if you say something, and it's a year later, you're not going to remember it. But if it's within minutes of reading it and sharing it, reading it and sharing it reading and sharing. So I made it a daily ritual to develop a sharing mechanism, a teaching mechanism every single day and what I read, and I eventually, by the time I was in my early 20s, I would get up early in the morning and I kept faster and faster reading I got to where I was speed reading after a while, I got to a point where I would read four to seven books in the morning before 230 in the morning to 630 in the morning, and then teach that day what I just read. I just accelerated that until now I've gotten to read over 30,600 books. But what I told I was told by my teacher I've never be able to read well, I've done pretty good on that now. I've never been able to write and I've written a lot of books, nearly 300 They said I never travel very far go very far in life. Well, 20 million miles never amounted to anything. Well, I'm, I live on the biggest yacht in the world, and I'm pretty well off. And it's interesting. All the things they said I would never do never communicate effectively. Well, I've reached people all over the world and in rebellion. So I'm a firm believer that whatever they say you can't do may just be the thing you're destined to do. And

Anthony Hartcher: 25:00

so true, you talk about that hierarchy of voids, becoming the hierarchy of values and that journey you've had really, you know, those voids in your life became so important to you the learning, the communication, the travel. So, yeah, it's remarkable. My next question is along the lines of being loved for who you are, and accepting yourself for who you are, and loving yourself. Because what I see and it really, really hurts me is I see so many clients that don't accept who they are, and they don't accept their body, and they're trying to move their body into something that's not possible. And they do cruel things to themselves, you know, they starve themselves, they over exercise, they, I guess, self sabotage themselves in their mind. And so I'm really wanting to talk about the great work that you do and how you can help these people to better accept and love who they are.

Dr John Demartini: 26:02

Well, anytime you meet somebody, and you compare yourself to them, and you think that they are more intelligent, or you think that they're more attractive, or you think that they're more socially connected, you're going to self depreciate yourself compared to them. I'll give a story fair, I had the opportunity to work with one of the she was voted the most beautiful woman in the world at one time by a number of magazines. And she came to one of my seminars, the break to experiences which is my signature program that I'd help people with these other things. And you look at and you go, you know, you're a guy you look at you go, Whoa, this is something extraordinarily attractive. But she couldn't see it. Because what she was doing is she was comparing her hair to this one girl that had thicker hair, her breasts to this one girl that had more prominent breast, her thighs to the woman that had this, you know, this morning, slimmed her thighs or something, her abs to somebody else. She was comparing her parts to all of the parts of them. Now the lady with the hair, the rest of it didn't have such greatness, but the hair was standing out. But because she was looking at the whole person, she was looking at her hair, she was now minimizing your hair. So when she kept doing this with all these other supermodels on these catwalks and stuff, and then she realized that, you know, she's got dysmorphia of body dysmorphia, she has a completely distorted view about it, because anytime you put somebody on a pedestal about their body, you're gonna minimize your own. Anytime you put somebody in a pit with a body, you're gonna exaggerate your own. I've seen some women or men exaggerate their bodies, as much as diminish it. I've seen it the other way around, too, and they're the look and we go, they really think that's attractive. It's quite intimate. So you have a dysmorphia, the moment you look down, you exaggerate it and when you look up, you minimize it. And whenever you minimize it that occurs not just in the body, there's body dysmorphia. But there's also intellectual dysmorphia, if that's a term. It's not a morph means body form, but it's sort of like a dysmorphia. So if you exaggerate their intelligence, you're gonna minimize yourself. I've seen people have the fear of public speaking, because they're thinking there's somebody in the audience is smarter than them and so they're they're self conscious and minimize them. So so they forever fear speaking. If you get in speak in front of a bunch of kindergarten kids, you speak fine, because you're looking down on him and not up. So when you look down, you can speak out, you look up your listen, you don't speak. So people sometimes have dysmorphia in their intellect. Some people do it and go, Oh, my God, this guy's got this massive company, I got this little thing with two people. And you'll minimize yourself there. So anytime you compare yourself to others, minimize yourself to them and exaggerate them. You're going to self depreciate yourself. And you'll do what is called Brain offloading. You'll give decisions to those people instead of make decisions for yourself and try to be envy them and imitate them. It's going to be you. And the magnificence of who you are is far greater than any fantasy you'll inject from other people that you put on a pedestal. And if in reality, when you get to meet these people that I've met, you know, 4000 5000 celebrities in the world. And if you meet them, you find out that they don't have a better life, they got a different life. They got their own challenges and problems. It's not better. It's just different. But as long as you got them up on a pedestal, somebody because of intellect or social impact, or whatever. I mean, I had a lady the other day that said, you know, I feel so insignificant. I've spent three years and I've got so many 1000s of people on my social media, and this others girl's got, you know, 10 million. And we went investigate and found out that she bought them. She had buying them to keep the numbers to try to do it. The truth is she had less. And she goes, I can't believe that that I felt for that man. Then she found out that oh my god, this was a facade and she was comparing yourself to a facade and not loving yourself. So a lot of people. You know, Ralph Waldo Emerson said, envy is ignorance and imitation is suicide. And Einstein said my contempt for authority is what made me one. And we're not here to fit in. We're here to stand out and we can't stand out if we're trying to dilute ourselves by trying to be all these other people. So whenever you find something you admire and somebody, go find out where it's already inside you, nothing's missing in you. It's in another form that you're not honoring. I have knowledge and intelligence in human behavior, not it. So if I see somebody that's brilliant in it, and I go, Oh, I'm such a klutz, and that that's not the answer. The answer is, where do I have that same degree of intelligence in my highest value, because their highest values it my highest value is human behavior. And then I go, I don't need to envy them, I don't need to imitate them, I need to understand that they have a different set of values. And unless I'm wanting those values, I don't expect to have those results. My values are leading to my results and honor who you are.

Anthony Hartcher: 30:42

Amazing. I'm still taking it all in Dr. John Demartini. I'd love to hear what you do to look after yourself. You know, you have a surfing background, you travel the world. And I know you've taken nutrition seriously ever since you've got poisoned with strychnine and cyanide. So you're really keen to understand your routine and how you look after yourself, given your busy schedule? Well,

Dr John Demartini: 31:07

I believe I eat relatively well. I just had some Greek yogurt that's made fresher on the ship. I'm on my ship right now you probably see the curtains moving back and forth, because they're out in the ocean here. I had some mixed berries, fresh berries. And I had some homemade granola that they make. It's fantastic. And at lunch yesterday, I had some fish and vegetables, like five vegetables, and some fish, and a couple of grapes, and some multigrain bread. And last night, I had brown rice, a bunch of vegetables, and some ginger had some chicken in it, and some corn soup. So I eat pretty well, I think I don't snack. I drink water all day long, probably drink quite a bit of water. And I exercise I don't do it every day. But I do it once a week really intensely, and sometimes another one mildly. And I do something I love every day. You know, this is what I love doing is researching and teaching I spend the day I learned a long time ago don't do low priority things. You devalue yourself, and you put yourself in your middle and you and fulfill your life. So people say, Well, that's easy for you, you know, you've got some wealth or something like that. That's it? Well, no, when I started to prioritize my life and live by priority, that's when I became wealthy. You know, and by the way, wealth, and well being, and health all come from the same root wheel, w e a l, that's the root of those etymologically. So when you are living wisely, health wise, and are in a wellness pursuit, your wealth usually goes with it. Because your vitality and your enthusiasm and your inspiration. And your fair exchange is what enhances wealth production. But I've delegated lower priced things since I was 27. I read a book called the time trap. And from that moment on, once I read that, I realized I'm not doing lower party things. I'm delegating that. And I released myself from anything other than what inspired me, I think that has a wellness quotient. You know, I'm 68. And most people don't think I'm 68. And I, you know, there's some things that are not the way they used to be. There's no doubt about that. But I think for 16, I'm doing pretty good. But I think that giving yourself permission to do what inspires you on a daily basis and do something that is so meaningful, where your vocation and vacation are the same where you tap dance to work, as Buffett says, and you do something that's meaningful in a sustainable fair exchange manner with other people. So you're really compensated for it compensated for renumerated for it. And that way, you get to do what you love, get paid for it, and use the finances to delegate and give job opportunities to other people to do the things that are uninspiring. And that way, you can't wait to get up in the morning and be of service. And people can't wait to get your service and it tends to open up the doorways. And I think when you do when you're inspired and you have some meaningful, you don't want to live to eat, you want to eat to live, you want to eat to perform, because you have something meaningful and fulfilling to help people with. And I think that's what's helped me. I also feel that, you know, I think that, you know, life is pretty magnificent. I don't have a ingratitude towards life, life is pretty amazing to me. And that's because I prioritize, and many people scattered their lives multitask, realize burden their lives by subordinating to so many outside people through comparison, that they don't honor who they are. And they scatter themselves doing old party things and devaluing and frustrated and feel like they're putting out fires, and they're distressed, and they're in the amygdala. And all they want to do is escape, you know, with a break of vacation and in retirement to get away from this drudgery that they call life. And that's because they haven't mastered but one of the reasons I teach the right to experience program is to teach people how to transcend that trap, and get on with doing something and structure life. It's not rocket science. Answer, it's not really that difficult. They just need to be reminded of how to do it and shown how to do it. And when they do, I've watched millions of lives transform, they transform in front of their eyes, and it doesn't take that long to make a change in their trajectory of their life.

Anthony Hartcher: 35:13

And those transformations are shared in the books that I certainly read only two of your 300 No more books, but amazing stories in both the values factor and the gratitude effect. And I thoroughly recommend the listeners to get Dr. John martinis books. They're incredible. They're actually transformational. I must say I had the breakthrough experience just reading the books and Dr. John Demartini. how can listeners best connect with you? How would you like them to reach out to you or embrace your work, or

Dr John Demartini: 35:44

the easiest way to reach me is simply my website. If you type my name, Dr. Demartini, T, M, AR TI and i.com, Dr. demartini.com, or just Dr. Demartini, you'll find me I think I've got 13 million different links to it. But if you go and type that in and go the website and start browsing this website, you can go to media, and you can go and watch, you know, podcasts, radio, television, 1000s of articles, magazines, and stuff. It's an educational website. Or you can go on lunch, the YouTube and there's just tons of YouTube videos and podcasts. And Dr. Demartini show which is a broadcasting, you can go to the products and look at all the different products there that are for people that you know that they want to be engaged in doing, where you can go and find out what our events are, what we're doing live and free and paid events, whatever we're doing around the world. They can get acquainted there. They can spend the rest of their life on there. There's so many great videos, audios, webinars, there's magazine articles, I mean, I've written for 15 130 magazines around the world. So there's lots of magazine articles to read, you can stay on that website and just learn all your life, anything to do with maximizing your awareness of potential life and living more extraordinary life. There's all there on that website. So that's all you have to do is just go there and start browsing and see where their heart leads them.

Anthony Hartcher: 37:05

It's like a life skills university, so to speak. It's phenomenal until Yeah,

Dr John Demartini: 37:09

and many people who do that find their way to the break to experience that's, I've done that program 1147 times around the world. And it's my attempt to do what that man did for me when I was 17. with other people. My life changed when I met this man that day, I made a commitment when I met him, I want to do this for other people. So that's the breakthrough experiences where people, that's where their life changes.

Anthony Hartcher: 37:33

Remarkable. And that leads me on to just some fun quick questions. So who inspires you

Dr John Demartini: 37:40

all the great philosophers, the West and East all the great Nobel Prize winners I've read all about. And I've gotten them all through from Nobel all the way through. I mean, I've had many mentors in different fields, from Paul Bragg, who changed my life to Jim Parker to Lucky Schwann rom who was a mystic that had seven PhDs by the time he was 35. I've had a guy, Frank Carney, who's of financial feedback advisor for economics. I've had mentors, and on the ship here, I've got a contact with some of the most amazing people on the planet. So you know, I've had mentors, there's not one and then there's people usually ask me, What's the key books that you would recommend people to read? And I tell people go get Mortimer Adler has sinned TOPIK, and volumes one and two. It's a PhD on the master of life. It's a summary of the greatest ideas from the greatest minds. Over the last 2700 years. It's lived in the Western world, all summarized in two volumes. It's a great education for anybody that has wants a PhD on mastery of life, in terms of flavor, food, what's there? Well, believe it or not, even though some people say that it's not wise to eat good breads. I love multigrain breads of different sorts. I love fruit. I love fish. Those are the three things that I probably love most. I drink vegetable juice every day.

Anthony Hartcher: 39:03

And your favorite place given that you've been to 170 odd places in the world, where's your happy place where you most happiest?

Dr John Demartini: 39:11

You know, I live on a ship that travels around the world where I'm in the Atlantic right now that goes to Portugal to Spain. This is probably the most fulfilling place to be is on my ship traveling around the world because I go to bed in one place. And I wake up in another country. We just sail to another country sometimes through the night. And I love traveling. When I was 18 years old, I asked my mom said that Paul Bragg the guy that inspired me said, you know, say to yourself, I told him I couldn't read or write and he said Say to yourself every day that you're a genius and you apply your wisdom. And I've been saying that ever since for 50 years almost. And I said to my mom, what's a genius and she said people like Albert Einstein and and DaVinci site said Well Give me everything you can get me on those both those two guys. When I started to read some Einstein with the deck sneering, he said that I'm a citizen of the world. He says, I'm not a man of my local, you know, family or community or city or state, or even nation, I'm a citizen of the world. And I immediately got a tear in my eye. And a tyranny is usually a sign that you're a moment of authenticity. And I knew that. And the same for Epictetus and Socrates and some of the great thinkers to the ages, they all believe that they're a citizen of the world, or the citizen of the universe, you might say. So my motto has been that the universe is my playground, the world is my home, every country has a room in the house, and every city has a platform to share my heart soul. And so traveling around the world, and traveling from room to room in my big home, on the planet, is where I love being most. And so it doesn't matter. I could be anywhere. I mean, I've been to a few 1000 cities, and islands and ports and stuff. So I don't know I think being right here is where I where I'm at right here right now, right here with you is probably the most fulfilling thing at this moment. So beautiful. Is it

Anthony Hartcher: 41:05

amazing. And in terms of your favorite healthy habit?

Dr John Demartini: 41:09

I think probably the wisest thing that I do is I drink water. I don't drink sweet drinks. I don't drink coffee. I don't drink stimulants. teas. Don't drink alcohol. I just drink water and vegetable juices. So it's been two liquids that go in. Sometimes a ginger tea if I'm having some Chinese food, Japanese food. But I think that's probably water. I'm a deep breather. I'm an abdominal breather, and I drink a lot of water. My fluctuation, there's never been more than two pounds up or down on my foot. But it's pretty stable because I with moderation, rhythm and consistency is what I've done with my eating patterns.

Anthony Hartcher: 41:46

fantastic. And is the abdominal breathing your form of mindfulness? Or is it your expression of gratitude,

Dr John Demartini: 41:55

my Demartini method, which is a method I've developed on how to dissolve emotional baggage and how to be focused and priority, I think is the key one. But you know, there's an old proverb that I when I taught yoga, I taught yoga way back when I taught breathing technology years ago, as the breath wanders, so is the mind is a mind water. So it's a breath. If you don't have governance over your breath, you don't have governance of your mind. And one thing that we have about the breath, the diaphragm is both involuntary and voluntary. So you have control over your breath. And when you do, you can change your autonomic inhalation is sympathetic. Parasympathetic is exhalation. So if you balance into one to one ratio, your breathing, you bring your autonomics temporarily into balance. So yeah, Monday breather and Vapo breather, spontaneously, it's not because I'm making an effort. It's just now habit. And that does have a vital difference. Because I'm amazed at how many people have tight shoulders, loose abdomen syndromes, because they breathe up in their curricula and upper chest area instead of their abdomen. So they got a flabby abdomen and a tight shoulder because they're lifting their whole chest by that. And they're using levator scapular muscles and upper trapezius muscles on the scaling muscles, and they're lifting, what muscles aren't designed to do that. And then they wonder why they got a stiff neck and stiff shoulders and loose abdomen. And learning how to properly breathe is a wise thing to do. It's not that difficult. And once you develop the habit of it, it becomes your thing, and your energy will go up. And when you do you'll moderate your autonomics which means you'll moderate ghrelin and Leptin hormone so you'll eat more moderately. So you can't do balance breathing without also helping you balance and moderate some of the other behaviors that are wellness quotients.

Anthony Hartcher: 43:38

Fantastic. And your concluding words to part with the listeners what we do like to share if we haven't covered anything in this discussion, or

Dr John Demartini: 43:46

everybody can look carefully inside yourself about what you really spontaneously are inspired to do and committed to doing. And don't compare yourself to others. Compare your daily actions to what's truly most priority and meaningful to you. And stick to parties. Learn to say thank you, but no thank you. I'm on a mission. And I have a high priority thing that I'm to do. And don't try to distract yourself because everybody in the world around you is trying to impose on you according to their values, what they think is important for you to do. And if you don't discern between what's truly meaningful to you, you'll probably dilute your potential and meaning and fulfillment. So give yourself permission to be you. Why be second being somebody else when you can be first being here and give yourself permission to shine not shrink and do some extraordinary not ordinary, because the true you is extraordinary. The false you is diluted and you'll fit in instead of stand out.

Anthony Hartcher: 44:42

Love it. The such mazing words and you articulate them so well. In terms of it's a great conclusion to the episode so I just really am truly grateful to have you on demand my health our podcast and to have met you I guess not in person but at is to have an interaction with you. It's been a truly humbling and honored experience for myself. And what you've shared with the listeners is incredibly remarkable. And I've learned so much in my journey, just researching for this interview. So I truly, really appreciative of the work that you're putting out to the world and what you're doing out there to enhance and enlighten the well being of others, which is what I seek to do. And you are someone that inspires me, there's no doubt about that. So thank you for coming on the show.

Dr John Demartini: 45:31

No, thank you for having me. I'd appreciate it. I was looking forward to it. I had a bit of a glitch getting on but we got onto me. Absolutely, that your lovely questions and for what you're doing. Because sometimes even though people know things, being reminded of the wise things to do in life always enhances people's lives. So thank you.

Anthony Hartcher: 45:50

Thank you. And to the listeners, thank you for tuning in to another insightful episode of me and my health up. If you've got some insight today, please share it with the rest of the world. We really want to get the message out there we really want to help others. And so please like and share it and distributed because it's all about enhancing others people's wellness and well being and getting the great work that Dr. Demartini is doing out there in terms of becoming our life University. So thank you listeners. And thank you Dr. John Demartini. Thank you